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Biden: Russia wouldn’t have meddled in any elections on my watch or Obama’s

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Um, what?

Joe, my man, I have bad news.

This is the Democratic version of the Bush administration boasting in 2004 that they’d kept us safe from terror. True, critics replied — except for that one time.

Via Contemptor, what was Sleepy Joe *trying* to say here? Because if he was trying to say what he ended up saying then he really is too old to run.

“Let me put it this way, if he wins re-election, I promise you there’ll be no NATO in four years or five years.”

“No more NATO,” Biden said. “Why did we set up NATO, Chris? So no one nation could abuse the power in the region in Europe, that would suck us in the bay they did in World War I and World War 2. It’s being crushed.”

“Look at Putin. While Putin is trying to undo our elections, he is undoing elections in Europe. Look what’s happening in Hungary, look what’s happening in Poland, look what’s happening in Moldova. Look what’s happening. You think that would happen on my watch or Barack’s watch? You can’t answer that, but I promise it wouldn’t have, and it didn’t.”

Maybe he’s making a point about Putin expanding his influence campaigns abroad. Fine, okay, Biden might say, Russia successfully interfered in our election, but at least Barack and I would have cracked down afterward and tried to stop them from interfering in others.” Laying aside how pitifully lame that answers would be, though, is it remotely plausible? Russia famously walked all over the Obama administration.

Miller could have also included the time Obama wimped out after threatening to bomb Assad and then let Putin broker a chemical-weapons “disarmament” deal for Syria instead. We’re talking about a guy here whose most memorable foreign policy pronouncement during the 2012 campaign was mocking Mitt Romney to his face in front of 50 million people for believing that Russia was still America’s foremost enemy abroad. O and Joe weren’t just weak on Putin, they were denialists.

And so, to his point that Trump might try to withdraw the U.S. from NATO during his second term (a legit worry), one might reply that NATO will be toothless regardless of who wins next November. Whether there’s still a formal treaty in place or not.

To its credit, the media hasn’t been shy about noting how weak Obama’s response was in 2016 upon learning of Russian campaign interference. (Although that’s likely just because they’re miffed at him for having damaged Hillary’s chances by his inaction.) This WaPo piece from late 2017 is probably the most well-known story on the subject…

“It is the hardest thing about my entire time in government to defend,” said a former senior Obama administration official involved in White House deliberations on Russia. “I feel like we sort of choked.”

“The punishment did not fit the crime,” said Michael McFaul, who served as U.S. ambassador to Russia for the Obama administration from 2012 to 2014. “Russia violated our sovereignty, meddling in one of our most sacred acts as a democracy — electing our president. The Kremlin should have paid a much higher price for that attack. And U.S. policymakers now — both in the White House and Congress — should consider new actions to deter future Russian interventions.”

…but BuzzFeed was on the same beat months earlier with a feature entitled “How Russia Hacked Obama’s Legacy.” You would think Biden would be sensitive enough to perceptions *on his own side* that he and O whiffed on Russia that he’d take care not to go into tough-guy mode when discussing Trump’s flaws, but no. I wonder if Harris or someone else will ding him for this at the next debate, knowing how sore a subject Russian interference remains for Democratic voters. If they’re looking for a president who’ll stand up to Moscow, clearly Biden’s not the guy.

Nice job here by ace reporter Chris Cuomo, by the way, allowing Biden’s bizarro “wouldn’t happen on our watch” comment to go completely unchallenged.

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Hillary: What if a Democratic candidate publicly called on China to get Trump’s tax returns?

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This is not, of course, a pure hypothetical.

She’s not advising China to do this (I think?), just using the example to underline the fact that Trump had zero moral or ethical qualms about using hacked material laundered through Wikileaks to his advantage in 2016. But really: If China had taken it upon themselves to hack Trump’s tax returns three years ago and put them online, what would she and the Democratic Party have done? Even if she made a point of not promoting the hacked material by commenting on it publicly, it would have been a national sensation. Democratic operatives would have eagerly exploited it on background with the media. The Resistance would have called it political malpractice *not* to exploit it given that Trump posed a unique threat to American democracy and needed to be defeated at all costs, yadda yadda. It’s fine and correct for her to note that POTUS is a plainly amoral creature but if Beijing hands the 2020 Democratic nominee a weapon that can be used as an electoral kill shot, that weapon will be used. And not just as payback for Russia’s hackings in 2016.

Anyway, Democrats don’t need to encourage China or Russia to do this. No doubt foreign governments will try, or possibly already have tried and succeeded, to dig up dirt on Trump for 2020. His tax returns are the holy grail given all of the public attention paid to them since 2015 but there are other avenues for uncovering information about his finances. New York State’s digital security for filed tax returns probably isn’t as good as the feds’. Deutsche Banc’s security may not be as good either. Remember that Russia had already successfully hacked the DNC and John Podesta by the time Trump famously called on Moscow to “find” Hillary’s missing emails; as sleazy as his half-joking public invitation to them was, they were way ahead of him. The deterrent to them doing this in 2020 isn’t Democrats withholding their approbation, it’s the risk that they’ll try to take Trump out with underhanded campaign interference and he’ll win anyway and then they’ll have to face his wrath. Russia assumed that risk with Hillary in 2016 and it paid off. I’m not sure either they or China would want to assume it with Trump, a far more mercurial character, in 2020.

There’s a deeper point here that Hillary doesn’t make, namely, that Trump and his staff were seemingly so indifferent to letting foreign chicanery hand them an advantage in 2016 that the invitation to Russia to “find” Hillary’s emails would have been implied even if Trump had never made it explicit. His enthusiasm on the trail in late 2016 for the Podesta material published by Wikileaks was proof enough to Russia that there’d be no consequences to them for having interfered in the campaign if he won. China surely remembers that, too. Trade war or no trade war, it’s probably more in their interest to go digging for dirt on the Democratic nominee in 2020 than on Trump, expecting that POTUS would receive that dirt as graciously as he would a proper campaign contribution. A Dem who got elected thanks to Chinese dirt on Trump might feel obliged to punish them regardless, if only to follow through on the party’s rhetoric since 2016 about how appalling foreign meddling in elections is, but Trump probably won’t. If anything, he might consider foreign interference on his behalf patriotic, an attempt to help Make America Great Again.

Given his sensitivity to having to share credit with Russia for the glorious victory of 2016, I wonder if it ever occurs to him that people might be less inclined to insist that he share credit if he hadn’t made that famous press-conference pitch on the trail about “finding” Hillary’s emails. Go figure that when you invite Russia to team up, your critics are more likely to see your win as a team effort. Exit question: If China did leak Trump’s tax returns in 2020, would any votes actually change? He’d deny that the documents were real, his fans would naturally believe him, and the haters would naturally believe the documents were authentic. What changes?

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